Allison Creek and Eckels Creek Loop

This challenging loop typically takes around 4 hours and 30 minutes to complete. However, your actual hiking time may vary depending on your fitness level, pace, and how long you spend enjoying the views or exploring notable features.

While specific parking lot details aren't provided, the trail research mentions a road walking portion back to the trailhead and historical gravesites near where the Big Bar Campground is now located. It's advisable to check local Payette National Forest resources for the most current trailhead access and parking information before you go.

No, this loop is generally rated as moderate to hard, with a difficulty rating of 3.5 out of 5. It features a significant elevation gain and varied, often demanding terrain, including very steep sections and brushy areas. It requires good fitness and is not recommended for beginners.

The terrain is diverse and challenging. You'll encounter gradual inclines on the Eckels Creek portion, while the Allison Creek Trail includes shorter but very steep descents. Expect brushy areas, especially along creek canyons, open meadowy slopes, and forested pockets. Some sections may have faint trail tread and downed trees. Be aware that poison ivy is ubiquitous, and ticks are a concern.

You'll be treated to incredible, sweeping views of Hells Canyon, mountains to the east, and the Snake River below. Depending on the season, wildflowers can add to the picturesque landscape, making for stunning panoramic vistas throughout the hike.

Yes, beyond the panoramic views, you can explore The Flatiron, a significant limestone outcropping featuring a cave via a short side trail. Along the road walking portion back to the trailhead, you'll find an interpretive sign and gravesites of Archibald Ritchie and John Eckles, who had an orchard in the late 1800s.

The area is home to diverse wildlife. Hikers have opportunities to spot elk, deer, and mountain goats, with the latter often seen on cliffs near the end of the trail.

Yes, the route also passes through sections of the Eckels Creek - Kinney Creek Trail and the Eckels Creek Trail. The loop can also be extended further north via the Kinney Creek Trail.

The trail offers beautiful scenery, with wildflowers abundant depending on the season. Given the mention of brushy sections, ticks, and potential for snow at higher elevations, late spring through early fall is generally the most favorable period. Always check current conditions before heading out.

As this trail is located within the Payette National Forest, it's always best to check the official U.S. Forest Service website or local ranger district for any current permit requirements or entrance fees that may apply to the area. Generally, day-use hiking in National Forests does not require a permit, but specific regulations can change.

While specific regulations for dogs on this particular trail aren't detailed, trails within National Forests are generally dog-friendly, often requiring dogs to be on a leash. Given the challenging terrain, brushy sections, and presence of wildlife, ensure your dog is capable of handling the hike and that you pack enough water for both of you. Always practice Leave No Trace principles.

Be prepared for varied and demanding conditions. The trail can be extremely brushy in sections, particularly along Eckels Creek, and the trail tread can be faint and difficult to locate in parts. You might encounter downed trees in upper sections. Poison ivy is ubiquitous, and ticks are a concern, so wearing long pants and sleeves is highly recommended. The final two miles descending along Allison Creek Trail are initially very steep.